EXCLUSIVE: Dinesh D’Souza talks 'Trump Card,' the election, and fighting socialism and the 'Deep State'

D’Souza said his movie “lays out the threat of socialism” and shows how President Donald Trump is the “man of the hour” to stop the spread of socialism in the U.S.

He also predicted Trump will win the 2020 election and said rooting out the deep state should be one of Trump’s main priorities in a second term.

Campus Reform recently interviewed conservative author and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his new movie, "Trump Card."

Campus Reform recently interviewed conservative author, commentator, and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his new documentary, "Trump Card." 

The film, which D’Souza calls his “most important,” focuses on the rise of socialism in the Democratic Party and President Donald Trump’s role in stopping it.

“I think it’s my most important movie,” D’Souza said of “Trump Card,” which recently became the number one movie on iTunes and Amazon. 


“My Obama and Hillary movies focused a lot on an individual...this movie has less history. There’s a window into history, but there's so much craziness going on around us that most of the movie’s about today and tomorrow, so it lays out the threat of socialism. The movie is loosely based on my book, The United States of Socialism. It lays out the socialist threat. It lays out the socialist tactics, and then it looks at Trump as a sort of political general in the fight against socialism.”

According to D’Souza, socialism in America today is less focused on class and economic issues and more focused on race and identity.

“We have a new type of socialism that's married to identity politics, and I call it identity socialism,” D’Souza argued. “So I spell out the implications of this. Why is it that we talk more about race than we talk about class? Why is it that so many leftists care more about culture than they do about economics? Marx was all about economics, but we have people, socialists today, who care more about abortion than the minimum wage. They care more about the transgender bathroom than universal basic income.”

“I mean many Republicans are still pining for the Reagan years, but let's remember in the Reagan years our opponent, it was a cold war against the Soviet Union,” D’Souza noted. “Now we're in a domestic, a kind of cold civil war, and our opponent is domestic. So it's a little bit more of a parallel to Lincoln than it is to Reagan and I think that calls for a different set of tactics, and Trump in that sense is the man of the hour.”

D’Souza also spoke about the agenda items that he believes Trump must focus on if he wins a second term, the most important being to “clean out the deep state” in his second term.

“There's corruption in the deep state, and it's all at the top,” D’Souza said. “There's nothing wrong with the ordinary FBI agent, but there's something wrong with the people running the FBI. And even the guys who aren't directly implicated are covering up for the others, so you need to put people in handcuffs. You need to indict them. You need to show that these thugs with badges can also be held accountable.”

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Campus Reform also asked D’Souza to weigh in on the political climate on college campuses and how that has changed since he was a student.

“The big difference between now and when I was a student is that when I was a student at Dartmouth, the campus was left-wing but there were conservative professors,” D’Souza said. “Probably a dozen of them, and there was genuine debate on the campus. And even the liberals knew what conservatives think and vice versa.”

“Now when I speak on campus, I find that young people are not exposed to conservative ideas at all,” D’Souza added. “They don't regard them as legitimate because they haven't been taught what they are. And they look at me as if I'm a creature from Mars because I'm saying things that they've never heard, and they can't believe it's true.”

D’Souza also said that professors do their best “to spin the ball.”

“A lot of what we call history is progressive history, and that's the scam I've been trying to bust up with my books and my movies," he said.

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When asked what conservatives and the Republican Party must do to appeal to future generations, D’Souza suggested the creation of an online university and a conservative network television channel.

“I would say that we need two things. One is a world-class online university that offers education at the level of the best colleges in the country at one-third of the price,” D’Souza said. “In other words, we need to build the academic iPhone. Number two, I think we need a network. Not a cable network, but a network like CBS or NBC which has movies, and talk shows, and comedy, and a lifestyle network. I think Trump can do that after the presidency because he has the following to do it. He has the money to do it. He has the contacts to do it.”

However, D’Souza also warned conservatives to be cautious in making brash election predictions even though he predicts Trump will win the election.

“I hope Trump wins in a landslide,” D’Souza said. “My instinct is that he will. Although I'm always on guard against my instinct, because we should never confuse what we want to happen with what is going to happen...I think Trump's going to win, but I'm cautious about it.”

“I look at the polls sort of carefully because, although I think that they are rigged and I do think that people are a little culturally intimidated and saying they are for Trump, so I think there's understated support for Trump, but I don't want to be too brash in my predictions,” he added. 

“It's not even my field. My instinct is that the common sense of the American people will prevail. So I trust the common sense of the ordinary American to see through the media. They're so transparent. They're so vicious. They're so obvious that if you can't spot a crook there, I'm not sure when you can.”

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